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Simon Turner's avatar

A fascinating in-depth look at how covid disinformation was created and spread by a well-funded and conscience-free right-wing. Also worth bearing in mind that the same people spread other types of disinformation in similar ways.

Counter Disinformation Project's avatar

In a future piece I'll map how these groups have diversified or gone into other grifts

Dr Ros Jones's avatar

Can you explain which grifts?

7om 🤟's avatar

They are good at it. How do we fight?

Preston Locke's avatar

Ahh astroturfing. Ahh astroturfing. Pandata as the nexus pulling in Thiel cash, ex-Cambridge Analytica mind-games (Fagan), and oil barons via CNP, all to dress up lockdown gripes as "the people."

Whats wild is that this blueprint is kind of everywhere now. Well, most areas. So, what can we learn? Crises are catnip for pre-fab networks; media laps it up for clicks, we all drown in dueling "truths."

Joshua E. Foster-Tucker, MPH's avatar

This is brilliant!

Dr Ros Jones's avatar

It would be nice to read a name at the bottom of this imaginative article. I am happy to share mine. I am a retired paediatrician and like many of the names you mention in you Venn diagrams, I have worked totally unfunded for 5 years trying my best to prevent the huge harms to children, starting with lockdowns and school closures and the immense damage to mental health. As for the rapid rollout of a new technology mRNA-based vaccine that children didn't need, based on the mistaken and unethical idea that this would help protect their grandparents, I have been personally thanked by inumerable parents for giving them the courage to say NO. I'd love to know where the alleged funding went to - certainly not to HART group or the Children's Covid Vaccines Advisory Council.

John Collis's avatar

A confession, I joined HART because I was under the impression it was a reasonable group. However, I became disillusioned with them when their true colours became apparent by showing they were not open to any challenges to their beliefs, and left them in 2022, although my picture is still on their website.

Counter Disinformation Project's avatar

That's what I noticed with them, they were only interested in reinforcing their beliefs, would be interesting to hear more about how you got involved and your experiences

John Collis's avatar

I am happy to share my experiences with HART, but this is not something that I can or would want to rush.

Jonathan's avatar

Didn't you hack into HART group's files and share information John?

John Collis's avatar

No I didn’t hack into any files, but I did put a comment on a YouTube video that was picked up by someone in HART, that led to my excommunication, with an accusation of slandering them. Email dated 4/10/2022

“Dear John,

I am afraid that someone shared this communication with me today:

<screen shot of YouTube comment>

As you know, everyone in HART is open minded and has the best of intentions. Evidence is shared and challenged as you have been witness to. The people in HART have put everything on the line and several of us have had our careers threatened. While we remain very willing to be challenged we cannot afford to be publicly slandered by people we thought we could trust. After seeing this I am afraid we do not think that you belong in HART any longer and I have deactivated your access this evening.

Yours sincerely,

Clare”

Dana Ludwig's avatar

How does Jeff Zients play into this network? He seems to have had a tremendous influence in minimizing the Covid-19 response in the US during the Biden years.

Shut hhh's avatar

The elites behind covid disinformation didn't actually believe their own garbage. They oligarchic elite intentionally sabotaged the pandemic response in the middle of a global emergency just because they were salty about BLM and losing an election. They instructed their clients, pastors and institutional leaders under their control, to intentionally spread lies and panic in America, trying to hurt America as much as possible to punish it for not voting for their preferred candidate. And then they knew they could get people to scapegoat Biden for all the chairs they intentionally caused. That's how these people work after all - always searching for a scapegoat, always looking to create problems and then convince people the actual cause is their political enemies. They are disloyal and sick in the head and should not be allowed to have power over our society. Billionaires should drop the my way or the highway attitude, or we will drop them.

Counter Disinformation Project's avatar

I agree, I don't think the billionaire class, particularly those owning chunks of the media believed everything they were platforming. The leaked CNP phone call was all about cynical politics to get the economic figures up, in the UK newspapers saw a huge drop in sales and were lobbying on behalf of their own vested Interests, however quite a lot of the ground troops they found as alternative experts do appear to have believed what they were saying. The HARTleaks revealed members had put themselves into a reinforcing ecochamber and it doesn't look like members benefitted financially. Those in the ecosystem who managed to bring in considerable revenue, or the politicians who are seeking support of the anti-vax base are the ones whose intentions I'm most suspicious of.

Jonathan's avatar

If you look for links, you will find them - so I think this is accurate and ontological as an Imperial College Model - and we know where that led us.

Jonathan's avatar

Anyone can propose a model, test it, and show us that it works if you believe in your postscript dot connecting analyses. And then there is the issue of the biased title - 'Disinformation'. Seriously? Where is the disinformation in groups or individuals asking for sufficient safety testing for a product that has since been proven to be incredibly harmful, going into children, babies, and pregnant women? The majority disinformation during COVID came form govermnments, pharma and regulators - like 'safe' and 'effective'. Neither of which were remotely true. Complete waste of time and space.

Fred Williams's avatar

I find this very weird. Just a general feeling. It sounds itself to be disinformation.

See: (Yes it’s long but all very informative).

https://rumble.com/v1rcwo4-who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020.html

455 Rocket Cat's avatar

And yet there is not a smartphone, social media, or AI skeptics movement decrying the actual harms done by tech bros with their “innocuous” technology.

britanniaboudica's avatar

You can be totally scientific and against the draconian lockdowns

I am 100 percent pro vax, pro science and anti lock-down in the way it was done

The real issue is the idiot BorisTheVirus who let the virus in and let it spread, this the the true evil in this situation and it reasonable that people did not want to be locked down particularly as this is not a method ever used in history and is rather moronic in many ways

David Knickerbocker's avatar

Nice. Good to see you here.

This is nonstop. I have built an internet firehose if you would like to track more recent stuff.

I have been doing what you did for many years. Nice to see it.

Counter Disinformation Project's avatar

I've got a list of things to cover to get from end of 2020 to where we are today

David Knickerbocker's avatar

That’s neat but you and I both know that a list of things is not the same thing as a simple accessible stream that is always on.

I have built something very useful. I’m not in sales node right now and this isn’t a hobby. I respect what you do.

I have worked w a lot of disinfo people who use static and outdated data. My specialty is making it easy for them to see more, and as it happens.

I have supported Ukraine directly in the days leading up to the war. A book was written mentioning my engine, in disinformation research.

This is what I do. Not just you. Trying to meet others, but people don’t want to actually interact w humans it seems. Just want people to consume.